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Weekly Chatter:Photoshop CS - Print with Preview settings
Thursday November 20, 2003

Section 1: Photoshop CS - Print with Preview settings






Color Management/WorkFlow > Hardware and Software > Photoshop CS - Print with Preview settings

























AuthorSubject: Photoshop CS - Print with Preview settings  
Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:55 PM

What are the best settings in Photoshop CS "Print with Preview" for colour photo output to an Epson 2200 with matte black ink and Enhanced Matte Paper?

Should I select "SP2200 Enhanced Matte_MK" under "Print Space: Profile", and choose Relative Colorimetric as the Intent? Or should my profile be "Same As Source" (Adobe RGB 1998)?

Also, how should I set the "Color Management" settings in the Epson Stylus Photo 2200 Properties? The options are "Color Controls," "Photo Enhance" and "ICM" (with a myriad of other settings for each option). If I have already set the output profile in Photoshop's Print with Preview window, will selecting "ICM-ICC Profile-Applied by Printer Software-Epson Standard-Perceptual-Stylus Photo 2200" provide the best results? Or should I simply select "no colour adjustment"?

Thanks for the help,
Fabrice


Ian Lyons
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:46 PM

> What are the best settings in Photoshop CS "Print with Preview" for colour photo output to an Epson 2200 with matte black ink and Enhanced Matte Paper?
>
> Should I select "SP2200 Enhanced Matte_MK" under "Print Space: Profile", and choose Relative Colorimetric as the Intent? Or should my profile be "Same As Source" (Adobe RGB 1998)?
>

Most certainly the former (an Epson media profile).


> Also, how should I set the "Color Management" settings in the Epson Stylus Photo 2200 Properties? The options are "Color Controls," "Photo Enhance" and "ICM" (with a myriad of other settings for each option). If I have already set the output profile in Photoshop's Print with Preview window, will selecting "ICM-ICC Profile-Applied by Printer Software-Epson Standard-Perceptual-Stylus Photo 2200" provide the best results? Or should I simply select "no colour adjustment"?


No colour adjustment mode is the only one compatible with the Epson media profiles.


You can find a more comprehensive explanation on the options here: http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_print/ps7_print_mac.htm





Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:38 PM

Thanks Ian. Should I leave the "high speed" (activates bidirectional printing) option enabled, or will this reduce image quality? And what about the "edge smoothing" option?


Ian Lyons
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:42 PM

`high speed should be off. I'm not familiar with edge smothing but it might also be better off.


Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:42 PM

Those settings worked very well for my first print on the 2200. The only glitch was that the image printed off-center on the paper, even though the media dimensions were set to "letter" in Photoshop's Page Setup, and also in the Epson Printer Properties window. I selected "center image" in the print preview dialogue box, but not in the Epson printer properties window. I'll try another one with "centered" selected under "more options" in the Epson printer properties panel. Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong? Should I be rotating the orientation of the image to portrait before printing?

Also, when I go to print the 6.826 " X 10.239" image, Photoshop tells me that the image is larger than the paper's printable area. I don't understand why I get this message since I've set all the paper size options to "letter."


Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:15 PM

Yes, something is definately off... I just printed the 6.826" X 10.239" image to letter paper, choosing "center" in both the page setup and Epson printer settings; the image comes out centered, but the about 1/4" is missing from the right and left sides. Is it not possible to make borderless prints on letter sized sheet paper?


Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:59 PM

I found "minimize margins" under the printer properties "page layout" tab and that seems to have solved my problem. Should I heed their warning about the possibility of the quality near the bottom edge declining "depending on the media"?

I remain confused about the way that Photoshop + the epson driver are calculating the printable area on a letter sized page. When I size my image to 10.5 X 7 inches, I expect to see a 1/4" border in the left Print with Preview "Position" field, but instead it reads 0.133 inches.

Any thoughts?


Gervaise Davis
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:04 PM

I would sure love to have Ian or some of the other experts explain why the damn Epson "center the image" setting almost always results in it NOT centering it, but leaving a larger margin at the bottom on portrait or on the side with landscape. Nothing I can do seems to fix this, because Epson seems to think we want a larger margin on the bottom.

Experts ? Is there some magic fix to avoid this problem ? Thanks.

-Gerry Davis


Fabrice Grover
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:21 PM

Gerry, have you tried selecting "Center Image" under Photoshop's Print with Preview "Position" setting AND selecting "centered" from the Epson Page Layout tab? For me, printed images are properly centered when I have both these options selected. But I still don't understand why Photoshop is reporting (and showing in the print preview) a smaller border than should remain on a letter sized page given my image width of 10.5".

Fabrice Grover


Jeff Schewe
Posted on Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:40 PM

Fabrice Grover wrote:

> I remain confused about the way that Photoshop + the epson driver are
> calculating the printable area on a letter sized page. When I size my image
> to 10.5 X 7 inches, I expect to see a 1/4" border in the left Print with
> Preview "Position" field, but instead it reads 0.133 inches

You need to understand that be default (and design I suppose) all Epson
drivers have unequal margins. Most of the non-bleed paper sizes have a .13
margin at the top and two side and a .56 margin at the bottom. Photoshop cat
only center an image in the printable area of the print driver. . .it can't
center it in the paper size because that is the responsibility of the print
driver.

If you wish to print in the center of any non-bleed driver/paper with an
Epson, you'll need to make a custom paper size with custom margins. I use
four margins set at .56 to be sure I can always print in the center.

The bleed drivers (which I think are actually separate and different drivers
will allow full bleed but only at certain paper sizes and with certain inks.



Jeff Schewe
www.schewephoto.com - www.pixelgenius.com - www.imagingrevue.com




Fabrice Grover
Posted on Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:05 AM

That makes sense. Is there any reason why I couldn't create a custom paper size with 0 margins and use this for full bleed output?

Fabrice Grover


Jeff Schewe
Posted on Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:00 AM

Fabrice Grover wrote:

> That makes sense. Is there any reason why I couldn't create a custom paper
> size with 0 margins and use this for full bleed output?

Yep. . .the print driver won't let you. There are very specific conditions
(paper size and ink) that allow some printers to print full bleed-but not
all paper sizes or inks (such as the matte K in the 2200) that disallow
printing bleed-and you can't force it.

Jeff Schewe
www.schewephoto.com - www.pixelgenius.com - www.imagingrevue.com





Francisco Marquez
Posted on Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:11 PM

Thank you all for the help but it just isn't working.

I tried Jeff's workaround but to no avail and the only way that I'll get my full image into the Letter size paper is by selecting Scale to Fit. Full image but never centered.

In OS 9 one could choose "Mximum" from the Page set up window and it all fell into place.

I'll keep asking around and if I can find a solution I'll post it here.

Wishing you all the best!

Paco


Ian Lyons
Posted on Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:37 PM

I wrote the following tutorial about a year back. It deals with centering the print and maximizing but not full bleed or custom paper sizes. Some Epson models were never updated to include these options.

http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps7_page/page_layout.htm


Jeff Schewe
Posted on Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:40 PM

Francisco Marquez wrote:

> I tried Jeff's workaround but to no avail and the only way that I'll get my
> full image into the Letter size paper is by selecting Scale to Fit. Full image
> but never centered.

Again if you create a custom paper size with custom margins-all 4 equal, you
_WILL_ be able to print exactly in the center of the paper. Whether the
image is smaller or larger than the paper size minus the margins is a
different matter. If the image is larger then you do have to click the fit
to size, but if the custom margins are equal, the image will be centered.


Jeff Schewe
www.schewephoto.com - www.pixelgenius.com - www.imagingrevue.com








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