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Bryan Whitney
Posted on Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:56 PM

Hi All,

I would like to put forth some questions about the workflow that everyone seems to use to achieve a good looking print in ImagePrint and to ask if there might, just might, be another way.

As one becomes aware in researching the solution for the flat shadows values in printing an image straight from photoshop (where it looks just perfect) the standard approach is to soft proof the image with the IP profile and then tweak the image to compress the shadows to a satisfactory point (for color) or use a custom dot gain - or custom curve- to preview a black and white image, tweaking here as well. You wind up with a file that basically is specifically purposed for IP: if you flatten it, it will be too dark to view in Pshop or another program, or you have to open the layered file and turn of the tweak layers, or, view the file using a custom dot gain and so on, all of which is not feasable if you are handing off the file to someone not privy to your custom color tweaking setup.

Having come from printing with the Epson software, where the print seemed to match the monitor image very closely without all this tweakiness (how did they do it??) , my simpleton mind wonders: why can't the profile in IP just reflect a higher contrast in the shadows??? This is, after all, fairly expensive software, and you would think that including a few more profiles that would more closely match the photoshop view, and print similar to that view, would be possible.

I am reminded of Joe Holmes Ektaspace where he offers a number of output conversion options based on the saturation of the file, so that it can be mapped accurately to smaller color spaces. So why not profiles for IP that give you +1, +2 or +3 more degrees of shadow compression? Verily no one seems to complain of plugged shadows in IP and it seems most all are compressing the shadow detail to achieve the (Snappy TM) look they get in Pshop. Oui?

Or is this outside the realm of the possible? It just seems to me that (to the degree possible) the print profiles should be constructed to match the calibrated photoshop view, as opposed to the photoshop file being tweaked to compensate for the printing output. I'm sorry... I told you that I a simpleton!

Alternatively, IP has tone and contrast controls in the non-lite version, and also the black point slider, yet this seems to be disparaged by all, even though the black point slider was probably put in by IP because of this flat shadow issue.

Thanks for your view!

Bryan Whitney






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